How much of our heat treat scatter is actually the steel? (scrap residuals)

Something that bites us every few months and I have never seen a straight answer on: how much the residual elements in scrap-based tool steel move the heat treat result.

We buy our blocks through a distributor, send them out for hardening, and every so often a batch comes back off the number. Same recipe, same furnace, same guys running it. Hardness high on one block, low on the next, and occasionally a part that moves more in the quench than it should. Before I go and blame the heat treater I want to know how much of that is already in the steel when it lands on my floor.

The way I understand it, most of this steel starts as an electric arc furnace charge that is basically all scrap, and a whole list of elements comes along with it that nobody can take out at a price: copper, tin, arsenic, antimony, nickel, chromium, molybdenum. Low levels of some of these are harmless. Others are not, and the reasons are pretty specific:

  • copper and tin are what give you hot shortness and surface cracking during rolling
  • arsenic, antimony and tin are the ones pushing temper embrittlement
  • nickel, chromium and molybdenum that are not held in a tight band shift the hardenability itself, which is exactly why one heat over-hardens on a recipe that under-hardens the next

I know the mills have levers here. Pickier scrap buying and sorting, diluting the charge with virgin metallics like DRI/HBI or pig iron, tighter control in the melt shop, and then secondary refining plus ESR on top for the critical grades. What I cannot tell is how much of that actually reaches a block of tool steel I can buy at a normal price.

So, four things I would like real numbers on:

  1. For a given grade, how much heat-to-heat spread in hardenability do you consider normal, and where does it stop being normal and start being a problem?
  2. Do you write residual limits (Cu, Sn and the rest) into your purchase orders, or do you just take whatever the mill’s standard practice gives you?
  3. Has anybody actually measured what residuals do to dimensional stability after quenching, meaning distortion and growth, not just hardness?
  4. Tool steel specifically: is there a residual level where you would refuse the heat outright?

What I am chasing is a way to tell steel-caused variation apart from furnace-caused and operator-caused variation, because right now every bad batch looks the same from where I sit.